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PrintAnti-War March against the RNC Part Two: The March and the Aftermath
News Type: Event — Tue Sep 2, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
Photo by Mary Moellenhoff
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Amidst chants of "No more war, peace now!" the anti-war march against the RNC began at 1:15pm. I made note of the time because it was 15 minutes late and there had been much concern about getting everyone through the march in the time allowed by the permit.
There was tremendous energy building, lifting the spirits and emotions of all of the participants. I walked up and down the line which was forming to begin the march down Cedar to the Xcel Energy Center. As I walked the chants changed, but the message was essentially the same.
"What do you want?
*Peace!*
When do you want it?"
*Now!*
Drums and chants provided the beat as the march began to move. Families with young children, middle aged, and elderly all marched together intermixed between the larger, more organized groups.
"Stand up! get down! There's an anti-war movement in this town!"
When about half the groups had left, I started to move up the street with the marchers. I could see a mass of people ahead of me stretching far down Cedar. I was next to a large group of students. They had much more energy than I had at that moment. I half ran ahead to get a clearer picture of the mass of people ahead of me.
"Tell me what democracy looks like?"
*This is what democracy looks like!*
We had passed 12th and were coming up to the History Center. I could see a long line of police in riot gear blocking the street at Cedar and 10th, turning the march at 10th. I was confused as the march was supposed to turn at 7th and walk the final blocks to Xcel. The street was much narrower and the marchers were more compressed together. After, I believe, a block we turned back and continued down to 7th street where we turned again on the final approach to the convention. As we passed the Children's Museum I noticed another large contingent of police clad in riot control gear. They moved as we did down the street. With the arrival of the strong show of force, the mood of the marchers seemed to shift. The buoyant festive mood was gone. There were some who shouted at police, but all continued to move on down the street. As we passed a church I noticed that the "Lucy" statue that had been there three weeks before was now gone.
Xcel was now in sight, sort of. It was now surrounded by a heavy black fence. Behind that fence were more police in a long line. We were approaching the Dorothy Day Homeless Shelter on my right. Today, there were no residents relaxing in the courtyard as there were three weeks ago when I has last been there. There was no one in the courtyard at all.
At this point we had reached the part of the march where it turned around. We entered an area with fences on either side. It was the first time in the march that I was actually uncomfortable as I am claustrophobic. As we made the turn, I was able to get a better look at the police standing on guard on the other side of the fence. They looked even more menacing now that they were closer.
Once we cleared the fences people cheered. I hung out in the median area to take pictures of the people still coming up the street and of those who had just made the turn. As the last of the marchers came through I moved up the street. I heard someone call my name and spotted Stacy. With all of the people in the street I hadn't really thought I would run into her. I had lost track of Ben long before the march started. We compared notes for a few minutes and then set off in different directions. Stacy was heading home and I needed to find Ben. I called him on my cell phone and found that he had returned to the Capital grounds with the marchers. I headed in that direction and met up with him at the stage, now empty, up by the Capital steps. We decided to head home as well.
As we were not sure of the bus schedule, we started walking up Cedar again, but found our way blocked at the bridge over I 94 by a group of very serious looking policemen, again clad in riot gear. As it was obvious they were not going to let us pass, we turned left thinking we would just go around at the next street, but that was blocked as well. We crossed and I asked if we could pass, pretty much knowing what the answer would be. I was correct, no! I then asked if the next street up was also blocked. I was told firmly that the only thing he could tell me for certain was that I was not passing through there. I thanked him and moved on There was no way that we were going to get into downtown St Paul. Our last option was also blocked and we were forced to north up around Regions Hospital to University avenue. I wasn't real sure of the area. I don't think I have ever been up there, but I could see the buildings of my school far in the distance up on a hill. I had parked there away from the action downtown and bused over to the Capital that morning, thinking we could bus back later.
I knew we were heading in the right direction, but I didn't know if we could get back to 7th street. Our maps were useless for that area as we were no longer downtown. We each called someone thinking they could call the area up on a computer to guide us. While I was talking to my brother-in-law, I got a call from Stacy. We had called her when we first ran into difficulty to see how she had fared. Stacy had made it to her car and offered to come pick us up. But, I was uncertain whether she would be able to get to us from where she was. I told her to go home. I kind of knew where we were at and could just hope we could get to where we needed to be.
I can't remember the exact sequence of events after that, but I think that was when we saw six to eight squad cars turn the corner a block ahead of us and speed up the street. We could see them turn right a couple blocks ahead of us. We continued on up the street and saw that they had all turned into a big parking lot and were meeting in a large group. We kept going and finally made it to 7th street. We stopped into a Subway sandwich shop and cooled off. After being in heat, high 80's, it was almost too cold. I ordered a 6 inch sub, but was more interested in something to drink. While there we talked with an EMT. I asked him if he knew how many were in the march. He told us 40 thousand, I was surprised, but later found the number to be between 8 to 10 thousand.
Ben and I left Subway to continue on to my truck. The college was in sight, but it was on a hill. After sitting for a while inside at Subway. I was suddenly very tired. The excitement of the march was now far from my mind. But, the sight of four squad cars, sirens blaring and lights flashing again as they passed us headed in the direction of downtown St Paul, quickly brought back the reality of the day.
It wasn't until I has dropped Ben off and had turned on the radio that I heard of the riots and clashes with police. Suddenly the actions of the police made more sense. Had we been allowed to walk back into downtown, we might have walked right ito a huge mess. It was inconvenient to walk around, but we were certainly safer for it.
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Before I say anything else I would like to point out to everyone that the organizers of his march were not the ones involved with the rioting and property destruction in St Paul. They are a separate group. This was a planned, organized, peaceful protest with all of the necesarry permits and in cooperation with the police and the city of St Paul.
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- 7 votes
#1 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 8:22 PM EDT{"commentId":2708679,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}
It's always the same crowd causing trouble at all of these protests -- the "anarchists" in the masks and that's been true of any number of demonstrations here in DC. They get their rocks off breaking windows and such like a bunch of little spoiled brats and give the peaceful demonstrators a bad name.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":2710723,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}
The same crowd, over the centuries!
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2717190,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}
It's always the same crowd causing trouble at all of these protests
Oh, you mean the same people the government @!$%#s up the ass again and again (aka, that? Yeah, damn them for wanting things like rights guaranteed to them by our Constitution. The nerve!
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2717321,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2718747,"authorDomain":"ecowiz"}
Interesting, the author is about freedoms but chastises someone because of a certain "tone." I was of the opinion, freedom of Assembly and speech, were more or less, all American as apple pie and cigarettes.
Why march against evil but squelch the right to talk about it? I am an old lady but was young during the 60's. The 60's generation was the most free-thinking, violence against evil generation, in US history. We almost had a revolution because a generation questioned the societal voices & the brainwashing of the American values that glorify mass murder and the destruction of Earth. Tone was never the issue nor was fear. It was righteousness against evil; they were God's Army. They placed their lives on the line for evil wars and the wholesale slaughter of the living body of their home, Earth. They challenged the so-called right to own and abuse the land, the earth.
Through the years, American freedoms have gradually washed away, and suddenly, America slid back to a dark and unenlightened version of the 50's, only today, America had dumbed down. We have a police state damocracy, and the only freedom Americans have never had, except one brief moment in time, is free-thinking. It has always been owned by the ruling class. Today, Americans are shaking in their boots about tone when the American Gods best represent devil worshippers.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2719384,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2719645,"authorDomain":"arad"}
I won't argue that it's certainly a lot easier to be snide than sincerely polite, but an attempt should be made. Making a point while being polite and non-offensive will usually illicit a productive discussion. Making comments that are confrontational and loaded will result in flame wars. When in doubt, try to be polite and understanding. :)
I'm glad to hear the march didn't degrade into what happened in other parts of the city. The entirety of the protesters shouldn't be judged on the actions of the few.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2729581,"authorDomain":"ecowiz"}
I do wish to add, azksy, I am envious of you; I would have given anything to have been there with you. If more Americans were like you, the world would, indeed, be a much greater and safer world.
When the individual is seeking righteousness, always remain confident that you are right. If your demonstration was peaceful, then the police should not have been so intimidating. I felt sorry for you because of your fear and temerity, but I was there with you in spirit as were countless people around the world that seek worldpeace. Peace is always preferable before mass murdering millions.
When I saw your images for world peace transmitted thru the media, this old body rose up, extended her hand, and shouted, "Yes!"
Thank you azsky for your contribution in striving for a better, safer world because history proves wars beget wars. Thank you,
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2735069,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
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{"commentId":2707185,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}
It sounds like you have done a whole lot of walking in the past few days. I bet your pooped! I would be anyway. Mary, thank you for the personal perspective you give here and once again your pictures are great. I'm glad your path was blocked and you didn't end up in all the mess with police. We would rather have you report the news than be the news!
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- 4 votes
#2 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:16 PM EDT{"commentId":2707922,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2709288,"authorDomain":"kestrelsparhawk"}
I live in St Paul and have a friend from the NLG staying with me to do legal observation. What's horrific is the lack of coverage this is getting compared to the obviously-staged coverage of the convention, by every in town tv station, most notably the public station. I am disabled and can no longer participate physically and have tried to do my part by posting information to my (small) lj readership and asking them to pass it on. They are all a)nonpolitical; b) liberal (as opposed to radical/progressive/etc.) and c) horrified.
Police were gasing protesters about 10 blocks from me, so I held off on calling my friend for a couple more hours, after that crowd was "dispersed," as the news put it. She answered and said, "The police have just shot tear gas and mace (I think; hard to hear) into the crowd, so this is not a good time."
Her descriptions of the plainclothes cops and the harassment of people riding public transit (including those who were not in the least involved, such as an RNC delegate who was just on his way to the Mall of America, as were they all) remind me that things have not improved in this country since 1968, my first taste of teargas and police rioting.
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- 3 votes
#3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:57 PM EDT{"commentId":2713463,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2710578,"authorDomain":"djehuty"}
I'm glad you were safe, Mary. I've noticed that march organisers usually double the real numbers in their estimates and the police usually halve the real numbers, unless there's trouble. So either way that's a lot of people, right? :)
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- 4 votes
#4 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:44 PM EDT{"commentId":2711853,"authorDomain":"fscott"}
Thanks for this very informative article, Mary, and the great pictures.
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- 4 votes
#5 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:39 AM EDT{"commentId":2713499,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2712439,"authorDomain":"thelittlebrit"}
So where is the big media, CNN, MSNBC, etc., coverage of these "police actions"? This is 1968 all over again and nobody is reporting it.
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- 2 votes
#6 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 1:18 AM EDT{"commentId":2713512,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2719267,"authorDomain":"jackmarc6"}
keep protesting!our very right to be may depend on it.those hypocritical bastards at the rnc have made money by destroying americans and killing people.they have sold out this country and destroyed our standands.make them as uncomfortable as possible and expose them always.god bless america!
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- 2 votes
#7 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:36 PM EDT{"commentId":2719665,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2723321,"authorDomain":"stacym"}
Yeah, I'm glad you guys were able to get back to your car, I was worried when I found out they were closing stuff off everywhere.
We ended up taking a cab back to Silas' place over by Grand Avenue, and it still took us a long time to get back there after they closed down Wabasha.
Interesting tidbit - we were listening to the cab driver talk to dispatch and were hearing all the incoming calls. Apparently a cab or currier or someone associated with the company had blood from the red cross that they were trying to get through, and even they couldn't get through some of the roadblocks.
At a certain point you could only get across the river on Hwy 52, it was like that all night. Even after that concert at Harriet Island, they blocked Ohio to keep the concert-goers from getting up to the High Bridge, my husband saw squad after squad pull in and by the time I got there to pick them up, I'd say there were over 50 police blocking it.
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- 6 votes
#8 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT{"commentId":2736690,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2724312,"authorDomain":"davids-light"}
Azsky,
Your safety has been on my mind for awhile. I'm thrilled to hear that you didn't get caught up in it.
There are right and wrong ways to get ones point across. When a person or group goes looking for trouble they generally find it. (ie, sticks and stones in place of permits.) The bad PR they bring upon themselves does nothing to promote their cause.
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- 1 vote
#9 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 2:46 PM EDT{"commentId":2736912,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2734299,"authorDomain":"wayfarer-1"}
Thank you for your coverage. I wish I could have been with you. Until I viewed your reports I had no idea this was to take place. Wouldn't you think that Alaska of all places would have covered your event, but then again maybe not. We have one group here in Fairbanks that were on the corner of University and Geist from the inception of the war, for over two years every Saturday -30 to + 80 . They still gather every so often. Had we known I am sure they would have participated here. Thank you again the picture were great. Also thank you for not letting this article digress off subject. I find many go off on things not even remotely related. I think I may have been guilty myself. Makes me stop to think.
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#10 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT{"commentId":2737210,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2736493,"authorDomain":"msharwood"}
I guess I'm the lone conservative posting on here. It seems to be mostly decent postings here, except for Mark and his 'hypocritical bastard' posting. There's a tone for you. You know, Dems and Repubs alike can be hypocritical, or they may just be trying to improve their country. What I have seen this week has been mostly disrespect for country and people alike among the protestors. Of course, mostly this is media hype - who are mostly liberals, I might add. Fox News broadcasters who actually braved going out where the demonstrators were were basically insulted and assaulted. So much for free speech there.
I welcome anyone who honestly has an opinion, as long as they remember that there are always two sides to every opinion.
I have a son in college who is a conservative. He has been spat on, kicked, a few of his grades have been devalued because of his beliefs. He cares equally for everyone. His teachers in the past have always stated that he has always been the one kid in class to welcome in the "new kid" every year and make them feel like they belonged.
My wish is for all of you to believe that we are ALL human, that we ALL have failings, and we all have our own belief system.
I believe you have a right to protest, but please continue to do so peacefully. The anarchists are really making it hard for anyone to protest peacefully.
Please just remember that while you are protesting - you are living in a very safe world, where you can grab a bottle, glass/cup of water for green, and it's clean, safe water! There are soldiers over in Iraq who ARE doing good. I know of a doctor over there who has gone over voluntarily four times - He has given aid to Iraqis who have needed it, under threat of life to himself. Schools are now open that were never open before for the regular people - men and women alike. There is no more torture by Sadaam and his handlers of anyone who believed differently than him - or if he just felt like torturing or killing people anytime he wanted to. Out of this conflict will hopefully raise a country that will know the freedoms that you and I know - the freedom to go to school, whether you are female or male. The freedom to protest - no matter what religion you are and no matter what your protest is for.
So far we have not had more bombings in our country. There really are people in the world who hate you and I, just because we are Americans and for no other reason. They hate our religions, our freedoms for both men and women, and they hate our society. Although our society does have alot that is wrong with it, with its outright in-your-face permissiveness, it's still a society, (so far) that allows for freedom of speech.
Did you thank any policemen today for keeping you away from the anarchists? Remember all of the policemen and firemen who ran into 2 burning buildings in order to save others, without thought of themselves, and probably knowing that most of them would not make it out. Remember that. I haven't seen any flags that thanked anyone for doing good in our own society this past week or two. I did see a pro-Iran flag. I know there are some innocent people in Iran, but there are many who would just as soon see us and Israel dead, and they have announced it again and again. This is not a new idea to them just because we went into Afghanistan and Iraq. This has been a historic fact for the ages.
I did not see you protesting when Americans have been slaughtered over there, including workers who were just going over to help rebuild water systems, rebuild schools, etc. They were beheaded, burned, blown apart, and their remains were strung up for the world and their families to see. Where were your protests?
I'm told you think that America invited it, but your silence is telling. America is helping all around the world all of the time. We send over help around the world. We were told we didn't come early enough during the horrendous tsunami in Indonesia, when we responded so quickly, and would have responded quicker if their government had let us. Did you see any other country helping out in ours when we've had need?
That is America. We're not perfect, but we try hard to be. Sometime why don't you try a march to thank all of the Americans who do try hard to help each other out. The government is only as good as you make it. The Democrats/libs are just as hypocritical as the Republicans, any day. Obama is a total product of the slimiest Chicago politics in history. He first gained office by railroading another Black woman who had been a major force of good in the Chicago area, not to mention the other two contenders he railroaded out as well!
Open your minds, and try to respect each person - each person has equal value. We all just want to be loved and cared for. Instead of taking up so much time protesting, go out and do good. That will really make a better world. I'm sure some of you have, and I'm not saying that you don't do good, but just please try to see the meaning in this posting. Why don't you protest the millions and millions of unborn babies who have been murdered?
I hope the best for you all, and I hope that we ALL can become Americans that can help each other and the world around us, and respect each other and our right to our convictions.
God Bless
(Sorry this is so long)
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- 1 vote
#11 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 7:11 PM EDT{"commentId":2737671,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2737961,"authorDomain":"msharwood"}
Thank you Azsky13. I did realize that you were not actually attending as a regular media journalist, but there to report for Newsvine. I believe you did your job and asked for honest discussion. That was my hope as well. I don't believe in fighting either. None of my conservative friends believe in fighting either. We always welcome discussion and careful thought.
I only hope that people will see that there are two sides to every discussion. Also, I'm sorry for the true protestors who just want to peacefully protest. I heard that the anarchist protestors have not only broken and pillaged the area, but have taken to throwing clorox on the RNC attendees, spat on them, kicked them, etc.. It's too bad that a few make it tough for the many that just want to live their lives and help others along the way.
Take care,
M
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{"commentId":2737538,"authorDomain":"Rixar13"}
It is every Americans right to protest this war and I find it interesting some of the protests are here in Maine at Kennebunk at his dad's summer home, quite a spread. Apathy has long set in with no control over this disaster.
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- 1 vote
#12 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 7:57 PM EDT{"commentId":2737800,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2738122,"authorDomain":"msharwood"}
azsky13: By the way, you seem like a lovely person.
My last post for tonight.
I'm off to see Sarah Palin's speech. There's a female for you!
Mary
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#13 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 8:30 PM EDT{"commentId":2739230,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2742576,"authorDomain":"monicad"}
Mary, AWESOME job. I have been on the road for the last 2 days, but I am excited to see your article.
I really think that the picture you paint of what the Excel Center looked like to you - a barricaded fortress with police in riot gear surrounding the building is an amazing contrast to the Democratic convention, which opened up seating for all who could attend and fit.
Thank you again for the work you did and the sacrifices!
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#14 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 11:55 PM EDT{"commentId":2750202,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2764760,"authorDomain":"monicad"}
I'm glad you shared that. I hadn't heard of the RNC opening up attendance the same way as the democratic convention, but it is good to know how you saw it as an eye witness.
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- 1 vote
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{"commentId":2803313,"authorDomain":"darrellgrey-1"}
Those are good pictures and a neat article Mary. Sorry I'm late.
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#15 - Sun Sep 7, 2008 2:05 AM EDT{"commentId":2804659,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":2808193,"authorDomain":"darrellgrey-1"}
Nate the Snake was a snake who lived in the desert in Arizona and had been there for as long as anyone could remember. He guarded the Lever of Time.
Rumor had it that if the Lever of Time were ever compromised, young would become old, old young, time reversed and life ended. Hence Nate. God had placed him there as a guardian.
One day an old truck driver was cruising along the interstate headed from Oklahoma to California. He was listening to a tape of Grapes of Wrath and feeling like Tom Joad himself, when the droning of Steinbech describing a frog made him fall fast asleep. When he awoke he saw the Lever of Time directly in his sights.
He screamed, slammed on the brakes, yanked the steering wheel hard to the right, just missing the Lever of Time, but subsequently squishing Nate the Snake.
When the authorities arrived, they asked the driver what had happened. Why had he killed this eternal snake? Explaining that he'd fallen asleep wasn't enough, they wanted blood.
The driver turned red faced and gasped at his accusers "Better Nate than Lever" said he.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2808535,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":3587537,"authorDomain":"stevef"}
I want to hear the sequel where Nate comes back...
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3587523,"authorDomain":"stevef"}
I knew you would be one who walks the walk.
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- 1 vote
#16 - Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:09 AM EDT{"commentId":3589930,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
{"commentId":3590481,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}
Those cops in riot police look intimidating (almost like those we see more often in Europe on some of these kinds of protests). Good to hear that the march remained largely peaceful. The example of some bits beginning to turn nasty is to be expected as these kinds of huge marches also tend to attract yobs and the lawless. Good to know that the cops had it well controlled.
Really good photos. Now that it is well after the event, wonder if you know if these two articles of yours helped to raise the profile of such peace marches in the MSM generally?
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- 1 vote
#17 - Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:22 PM EDT{"commentId":3590804,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}
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