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Build me up...
I tire of the back-biting,
sniping,
tear-everyone-down-who-does-not-agree-with-me-attitude.
what happened to respect?
listen to what I am saying...
don't just wait for me to stop talking so you can continue...
be aware that yours is not the only point of view...
there is more than one side...
each is valid...
listen...
build me up...
don't tear me down...
May 5th, 2009
We all need to listen. What's special about this part if the vine is that you can choose the people who will listen to what you have to say.
#2 - Wed May 6, 2009 6:53 PM EDTHell, yeah, nicely put.
The funny thing is that it takes so much less energy to listen and consider what someone has to say than it does to tear them down and try to convince anyone who will listen that they're an idiot (and I'm chronically lazy, so I care about these things).
You're lovely, Mary. Thank you for putting this out there.
#7 - Wed May 6, 2009 11:36 PM EDTExcellent message to get out there. I too find it much easier to listen, whether it be face to face or online in a cyber conversation. Put the egos aside and stop making everything all about "me" for once! Do something for someone else - make others feel important. It's not hard to do.
#8 - Thu May 7, 2009 12:03 AM EDTIt is a pleasure to listen to you Mary! I hope I can build you up as you have done so much to build me up.
#9 - Thu May 7, 2009 12:07 AM EDTI remember it from way back when too... but I thought the movie title / song title was just an amazing "coincidence"... ;-)
"....I remember it from when it first came out..."
Oh-oh; an identifier ! ! ! ~ : ) ~
My thanks to everyone who has read this article and has also helped support the other GNW contributions. In doing so you are helping contribute to a more positive Newsvine.
Also a big thank you to everyone who has contributed articles and seeds today. We have an all time high of over 30 submissions. The day is not yet complete so I don't have a final total yet.
According to the group page we now have 93 members, awesome!
#10 - Thu May 7, 2009 12:13 AM EDTThat is so great! I also want to thank everyone for helping to make our Wednesdays all about Good News.
Thanks to you also Mary for coming up with a truely great idea.
Mary-
We are all just members of 'Mary's Minions' and feel lucky to be your friend-your sense of right and wrong should be a beacon to many on here and in your non-virtual life (I would imagine). GNW as far as I'm concerned is the best idea I've seen here on the vine since I started here. I look forward to and also 'rack and stack' articles so I can post them on Wednesday. As the Guiness Beer Commercials used to say, Brilliant.
Mary,
I'm a day late and a dollar short. Again I apologize. What a wonderful message. And what I have always liked about GNW, is that we get to listen to one another! I am so glad to read that we have been so successful in getting the good news out!
Your a shining light of joy on Newsvine! I will never forget the kindness you gave me when I was a newbie, and wanted to tell my uncle's story. You went far beyond what you had to for me and for that alone, you are the best.
Perrie
#11 - Thu May 7, 2009 10:57 AM EDTI often wonder if some of the PhD.s here on NV let it go to their head and become arrogant and condescending as a result. Here is a quote to them from one of my favorite philosophers: "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." --- Anatole France
#13 - Thu May 7, 2009 4:56 PM EDTOhhh...I know about bad days! That's ok, and I didn't read it as rambling. I soooooo agree that it is more than just education and comes from all walks of life. How true, we stop listening and just keep trying to be right. Rhetoric!! Yep, lots of questions, too.
Thanks for taking precious time to reply!
While we are on the subject of needing to "be right" and being "willing to admit when we are wrong" I'd like to offer one of my favorite quotes:
Close your door to all errors, and truth will be shut out.
-Source Unknown
MalamuteMan, I noticed you quoting that in another article, and liked it. Very true. Thanks for reminding us.
Until a letter from Rottlady informing me of this group I was considering the Vine ruined by the conflicts that arose during the political season. Thanks for starting a happy day cause I enjoy them and feel good that others do too.
#16 - Sat May 9, 2009 1:31 AM EDTKind words in a simple poem. Just the balm I needed this morning. My soul is a little more at rest. You have given me a gift of peace. I appreciate it more than you can ever know.
#17 - Sat May 9, 2009 7:36 AM EDTBlessed be the peacemakers. The hope and the promise of Newsvine..... it can be built! It can be felt! It can be integrated and embodied! It can be brought to life! Mary, if you lead, those nascent ideas we talked about, that group proposed over on DolceSpiritus's article, will be a lasting testament to the collective intentions and high motivations of today's leading viners, and all who will follow in the years ahead will know that one time, a viner named azsky13 decided to make real the hope and the promise of this great community, and it has made all the difference! Rome wasn't built in a day, but at least wars don't last forever. Getting Smarter will soon take on an altogether qualitively greater and more profound meaning here! That group, your stewardship, it WILL be done, Mary!
#19 - Sun May 10, 2009 5:50 PM EDTI don't see why people are here if they really aren't interested in hearing all sides...doesn't seem to make much sense but sometimes that's the way it is.
Thanks for this little reminder Mary - we should be building up...not just tearing down.
#20 - Sun May 10, 2009 10:17 PM EDTSome people just need an outlet to let loose their rants and I would imagine it makes them feel more important than they are in real life.
Ladybug-stop by the GNW column on Wednesdays and see the results of Mary's good works.
Why do roses have thorns?
#21 - Mon May 11, 2009 3:19 AM EDTHey Mic! It's early in the morning so I'll take a chance and try to see what you are getting at. It's to protect them from getting eaten I believe...or manhandled too much.
Are you suggesting that we need to have 'thorns'? Or that by their behavior they are attempting to protect themselves?
While I can see your point. I don't agree. Roses have thorns to protect themselves. We have our brains...which are supposed to be a bit more evolved than thorns...JMHO.
Or am I reading a bit more into this roses statement than intended and you didn't want to discuss it at all! LOL
The "rose" is an example of the world around us. It is beautiful to look upon, it's fragrance is wonderful and enticing to the senses (it is something to be desired). Yet if we approach it without appreciation (without understanding), we are easily wounded. The thorns are a defensive mechanism, a form of protection; the rose is telling us in its own way, "I am here for you to admire, but treat me gently and with great care for I am fragile. If you do not I may just bite you!
Reality instructs us that life isn't all rosy and red ~ we are meant to engage in the world around us and that necessarily involves wading through a bit of the bad in order to reach the good.
The "why me(?)" person is forced to accept the wisdom inherent in the entirely appropriate "why not you(?)" response. The ability to reasonably function in the real world requires it (e.g., "A bit of manure is the nutrient to a better harvest!")
Perhaps a better inference would be, "Life isn't meant to be a bed of roses. Even if it were ~ would you want to lie in it?
Without first accepting the requirement of the appropriate accoutrement the emolument is hardly worth its acquistion?
Thanks for your thoughts and clarification Mic! I absolutely get your point.
Mic, that is a very beautiful and thought-provoking response. It's all about the appreciation factor?
Unfortunately nature doesn't have all of the answers - the deer eat the roses, thorns and all leaving an ugly demolished mess - no appreciation at all!
AZ Hope you will pardon me here. Delete if you wish. You don't have an email address up so I thought I would do this. That guy was really irritating me with his ignorance. Sorry for rising to the bait.
#22 - Sat May 16, 2009 9:37 PM EDTThat is why I really hesitated to put up my article. I have to think too much when I am moderator. I always get off track anyway.
az,
He is a notorious troll. Awful. You don't want to know how I know what I know, but I know. Ick.
Is this a secret, or can we all know who the notorious troll is? Might come in handy to know!
Don't worry, you will know them by their words. There are those among us (me sometimes) that can't see the forest for the trees in the way.
Thanks, at & az (see how lazy I am!) --
What other article? Btw, I haven't been on the GNW yet, but hope to soon.
Atsid -- Uh-huh, I know all about trees. I have someone here on the vine that doesn't like me and will confirm that I can only see the trees!
azsky -- Thanks for letting me in on that. I remember the song and it made an impression. Love that picture. Mic's comment - " It's the time of the season - Zombies - really has a lot of memories for me.
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